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points. these are not implausible assumptions. mitt romney would have to get double john mccain's margin of 18 points. could have to up to 36 points. that is if it does not change. d, ands does get realize if the white college graduates face about the same, it means that met romney would have to get north of 40 point margin of the white voter. let's take a look of where we are now. this is the gold standard. breaks. this shows that obama is leading by 8 points. if you look at the averages, it is a bit high. the averages are running about four points. you are probably up by five points. this is within the averages. it is similar to the pole from the heartland monitor which will talk about later. overall top line, a look at the margin, 91 points. that is basically identical. 7222 among 852 margin. most have been showing this. what this means is that the idea that obama could get 80% of the minority vote is quite logical based on these and other data that looks like what he will get. this shows you the break out for college graduates. , obama is doing a little bit better among white graduat

two weeks of continuous clanking stories on this, arizona senator john mccain says it is disgraceful that the white house blamedded attack initially on quote, spontaneous protests. here he is. >> the thing that is disturbing about this naivete, the fundamental ignorance of warfare. look, this was an attack on its face. heavy weapons, mortars, a, well-synchronized direct fire and indirect fire attack. the thing that is really scary about it is, that the people in the region believe the united states is weak and withdrawing. martha: john bolton joins me now, former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. fox news contributor. is he right? >> absolutely. look, i think there are only two explanations for the administration's performance. one they're engaged in a cover-up because it is politically inconvenient to find terrorism not defeated as the president has said. the other is that the president's radical ideology has created a world view where he does not process facts that are inconsistent with that ideology. everything's fine in libya. al qaeda's not a threat. there is no global war on terroris

for john mccain when he ran against barak obama in 2008 and now in the primary season, you worked for mitt romney. let's assess the governor's strengths and weaknesses as a debater first. strengths? >> well, i think the governor is a very good messenger. he's a good orator, he can deliver a speech. he's very good when he's on message and on offense. as you saw in the debates in florida against newt gingrich when he got on offense, the governor was very effective. when he leans into a debate, he can be pretty effective. >> bill: all right. weakness? >> weaknesses, when he gets -- like most every politician, when he gets defensive, that's when he makes mistakes. the $10,000 bet came when governor romney was being defensive about his health care policy and there have been other instances where other debaters have been able to get him on the defense and when that happens, he tends to look bad. >> bill: all right. you know that president obama is going to try to do that. he's going to question his health care criticism, his flip flops on various issues. he's going to press him from very specifi

that are saying farewell. see what he says about george w. bush and john mccain. this is "the daily rundown." i am chuck todd. let's get to the first reads of the morning. in the last two weeks, we polled in nine battleground states deciding the election. ohio, florida, virginia, colorado, iowa, wisconsin, north carolina, nevada, new hampshire. bad news for mitt romney, he doesn't lead in a single one. at best within the poll's margin of error. at worst, trails by eight points. this morning, how the nine states stack up. we said it again and again. the president's job approval rating may be the best indicator of where the bout may be. where it is more than 50, the president favored to win. iowa, florida, new hampshire, ohio, virginia, his approval rating below that, 47 or 48 in four. colorado, nevada, north carolina, wisconsin. here is a second way to breakdown the numbers. romney struggled with favorability number all year. that number underwater, more voters have unfavorable than favorable view in six states. romney is in positive territory in just three. florida, north carolina, virginia. final

in this race, mitt romney would have to get double john mccain's margin of 18 points among the white working class in this election. that's youth turnout doesn't change among minority's despite the shifts in eligible voters. if this does get realize, let's say minority vote share goes up by couple of points, 26% as was in 2008 to 28% in 2012, and again if the white college graduate and minority support stays about the same, it means mitt romney would have to get north of 40-point margin among white working-class voters to actually win the election, to win the popular vote. so let's take look at where we are now based on a reasonable came out. it's the gold standard for polls. a pew research center. no one else -- no offense to anyone else in the room who has april. they really do it right. it's pretty reliable stuff. they give you a lot of interesting demographic breaks tradition as among likely voters that obama is leading now by eight points. if you look at the average of the national polls as a bit high relative to the average. the average has been running about four-point. if you look at

, in fact, at best a few points better than wind mccain ran in 2008 and he is doing no better at all among white college graduates. that is one reason why the state is at this point looking pretty favorable toward barack obama. he could carry it by as much as he did in 2008. and also, if you look at it geographically obama is doing very well in the columbus area, which is kind of the slim support where it counts. o.c. investors and a lot of other states. the grace to the pennsylvania which, again, if their romney team could have put pennsylvania in place it would have been the key to a lot of other things. but the problem for them now is that pennsylvania is looking very difficult for them. obama is barely running in eight or nine or ten. average margin. it's just not happening. again, it comes back to what appeared to be the big coke, that they could drive up the white working-class margins in that state. 2008, a 15-point of vantage for john mccain, but the polls coming out of pennsylvania again and again show is not doing any better than-15. so basically the state is looking very similar

and turn the majpage. congressman paul ryan and paul mccain. take a look at this approach. >> the response was slow. it was confused. it was inconsistent. they first said that it was a youtube video and a spontaneous mob. we now know that it was a planned terrorist attack. if this was one tragic incident, that would be a tragedy in and of itself. the problem is it's part of a bigger picture of the fact that the obama foreign policy is unraveling literally before our eyes on our tv screens. >> i think it interferes with the depiction that the administration is trying to convey, that al qaeda is on the wane, that everything's fine in the middle east. >> you think it's political? >> i think there are certain political overtones. how else could you trot out our u.n. ambassador to say it was spontaneous? >> maybe it was. >> five days later? that doesn't pass the smell test. it was ever ignorance or willful intelligence. >> whether you agree with him or not, senator mccain has the credibility, a war hero, with great experience in washington dealing with foreign policy, how do you think, though,

the economy imploded, john mccain's advisers say his campaign collapsed along with it and never recovered. historians say in order for an october surprise to have a real 11th hour impact it has to feed into a narrative that already exist, whether it's carter's ineffectiveness or questions about mccain's credentials on the economy. >> it's not so much that suddenly eureka this is so surprising, so amazing, but rather people nod yes, this is where we thought things were going. >> dana bash joins us live from washington. first of all, i guess people will take a look at friday's numbers, the jobs numbers and do we think that could be a, the october surprise that people are waiting for, the unemployment? >> reporter: you know, it could be if it's anything like the unemployment reports that we've seen important the past several months it's going to be pretty static and that would not be a surprise. but, you know, what was interesting about what the presidential historian said that we talked to said it's true about these october surprises. they only have an impact if, because it's so late in the

john mccain being a man of some serious patriotic spirit when he stood up and refused to go along with the woman who said barack obama is an arab. to me, those are the moments that makes me love politics. it's like a george stevens movie where someone blows you away. the guy on the other side tends to be the hero of the moment. >> there's a lot of nobility in john mccain the man and i read his books and did a lot of research. i think he's an interesting and conflicting characters. all the characters john mccain, steve smith, sarah palin are almost shakespearean in their adventure. i wanted all the characters to have as much dimension as possible. >> one of the problems with the tea party people, they do care about their country, but the simplicity of their appeal is to thin. like sarah palin. what made her think, in your line of writing, that she should be the second most important person in the country? why would she have such limited background think she could be president? >> she was a popular governor. 80% popularity. she had taken on corruption. she had gotten money back to

during mccain one on ones. while romney did well in this season's gop debates, had rough performances, bet you $10,000 he did. romney performances, the unspoken body language that the camera captured, they were brutal against ted kennedy. ivy league will enjoy biden versus ryan more. trust me. >>> turning back to the brand new battleground polls. there's a different pattern emerging, president obama is ahead in new hampshire, tighter in nevada and north carolina. joining me, director of the marist poll. good to see you in person. >> welcome to the home of the new york yankees. >> you're going to blow the playoff run. >> i am worried. >> we want the beltway series in washington. we have been looking at this as sort of the generic, the general all nine states. what is your take away? >> i think what you're seeing is a very big difference when obama is 45, 46 as months ago when everything was 44, now he gets to 48, 49, 50, you can say it makes a difference -- >> it does feel like 48 is a big difference -- >> seeing a change in the right direction in the approval rating. >> massive gender

audience of the campaign. the first 2008 presidential debate between the president and john mccain got seven times the audience of the highest rated 2012 republican primary debate. think about that. seven times. past debates show romney and obama have to worry about cut away shots that are less than flattering. in the past both candidates have come across as irritable, patronizing or disengaged. this was chris christie's advice to the candidates yesterday. >> what you do is go out and be yourself. and people either like it or don't. if they don't, they are going to vote for somebody else. not a tragedy. no one dies. >> finally speaking of debates, there was a barn burner last night in massachusetts where scott brown and democratic challenger elizabeth warren faced off in a debate. moderated by nbc's david gregory. it was tense from the outset. >> if you're going to comment on my record, i would at least have you refer to it -- excuse me. i'm not a student in your classroom. please let me respond, okay? >> that was an echo of a quip brown used in 2010 when he told martha kwaurkly i'm no

be off. i was on the mccain campaign so i've seen him in primary debates with mccain, in primary debates in 2008 and now in 2012. ki tell you, there's times he's on, like when he was in florida in the last two primary debates. there's times he's been totally off, like the last two debates in south carolina where newt gingrich had him on the ropes. >> but he has to do something to turn around the dime nick this race. >> what's interesting is, yes, you have sort of the official romney/ryan line that mitt romney can't form a complete sentence and bark obama is cicero and it's going to be very hard. but what christie said is what you're hearing from people behind the scenes. there was a piece with a lot of anonymous quotes from romney aides saying, we need a game changer. i think the good news for romney is if you look back to those primary debates that you were talking about, he did the best in the debates where it seemed like he absolutely had to win. so the south carolina debate, seemed like he was on cruise control, sort of playing a prevent defense against newt gingrich. but then once g

by saying look the president hasn't debated since john mccain four years ago while mitt romney had a couple dozen debates in those republic primaries earlier this year. the other thing going on you said the debate is a week from tonight. two days later we will get the september jobs report. so the economy going to remain front and center, shep. >> shepard: ed henry live, kent, ohio tonight. thanks. the romney camp also arguing that president obama himself has not called the recent assault on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya an act of terrorism. that attack killed four americans including the u.s. ambassador to libya. and now house republicans are turning up the pressure on the president to clear up the facts on what happened there. plus, andy williams has died. but he left behind decades of memorable television specials and hit songs. tonight, remembering that easy-going all-american singer. ♪ a shadow of your smile when you are gone. ♪ keys, keys, keys, keys, keys. ♪ well, he's not very handsome ♪ to look at [ sighs ] ♪ oh, he's shaggy ♪ and he eats like a hog [ male annou

was a better steward of the economy than john mccain in troubled times. romney's got to make that case in 2012. >> little different when you're running against an incumbent. right? there's not a direct parallel there. >> look at the transcript. he was running against president bush. that these set of economic policies are wrong and i have a compelling vision. whether he can do that is another story. >> your colleague e.j. deion wrote journalists are in search of defining moments and game changers. by this standard, romney needs to game changer. obama can live quite happily without one. so do you think that mitt romney needs to have a big moment or if he is perceived to have won will at least give republicans some momentum. is that really the most reasonable thing to hope for? >> well, certainly it will. if the race were sort of fixed in time right now, everybody assumes that obama would win. in many ways that's happening because of early voting all right. so romney needs to change the trajectory in some way. now, that washington post is actually good news for romney in a sense he is winning th

with mitt. which is it? >> that's right. you could imagine john mccain in 2008 saying, wait a second, that 47% is made up of veterans who have paid their debt to society with blood literally. it's made up of mostly working people, most of that 47% are working americans, working middle class, working poor. >> hard working who earn less than $30,000 a year. >> or even $40,000 or $50,000 and many of those -- many of that 47% is made up of seniors. you know, this network is going to have a new poll later today that's going to show the race tightening and the national numbers but not in the battleground states i think. one of the big reasons for that, one of the big underreported reasons for that is how the romney/ryan ticket has offended seniors. we've talked about how this ticket offended women, african-americans, hispanics. the big story is how they have offended seniors and how seniors have gone from the romney/ryan camp into the obama camp largely i think because of the ryan plan on medicare, and so that -- the 47% was poorly answered by ryan, but an equal weight around this campaign

>> gretchen: tomorrow, bob massi will be here, senator john mccain and new jersey housewife caroline manzo. rocco is telling us, this used to be 700 calories. >> now 136. >> brian: and counting. >> talk about a government reduction. if we could run the government like this. >> steve: from pasta to politic politics. militias. at the same time there are new questions where this investigation is going if anywhere. remember it has been nearly two weeks since the deadly september 11 attack on a u.s. consulate in benghazi. that is where we begin. i'm bill hemmer. good morning to "america's newsroom.". martha: good morning, everybody. i'm martha maccallum. there are still really a lot of unanswered questions. it is still unclear what the libyan government is doing to bring those killers to justice. president obama yesterday telling the u.n. assembly that america will get to the bottom of the murders of chris stevens and the others. >> the attack on civilians in benghazi were attacks on america. there should be no doubt we will be relentless tracking down the killers and bringing th

different instances from the mccain camp and $7 million from the bush and cheney camp in 2004. so it's not like this is a onetime accident. no, they hire them to do something wrong. they project and say, oh i didn't believe the democrats are doing voter fraud, because they have been paying millions of dollars all this time to do voter fraud. the l.a. times explained . . . >> in other words the party knew who he was doing. they liked to change the name and let's do it again. they have been doing this for a long, long time. here they have priorities destroying democratic voter registration forms, failing to process democratic registrations, attempting to put ralph nader on the ballot in 2004 because they wanted to take votes away from john kerry. they got banned by wal-mart for partisan registration efforts. how right-wing do you have to be to get banned by wal-mart? the most important part of all of that is taking democratic demonstrations and ripping them up as they have in the past or as they were in this case in florida changing the addresses so when somebody go

. that admission led to many questions what took the administration so long with john mccain and lindsay graham issuing this statement. we recognize that al-qaeda involvement in the terrorist

was in virginia beach which senator john mccain won by 1,000 votes. governor mitt romney spoke to veterans in northern virginia where president obama easily beat senator john mccain. the 13 electoral votes virginia used to be a sure thing. that changed four years ago with president obama the first hopeful to win that state in 40 years from the democrats. the latest polls give the president a slight edge. the real clear politics average has him leading governor romney by 4.5 points. most rates show the race in the margin of error. john roberts is live in springfield, virginia. john, governor romney today focused on the military and veterans in that area. >>reporter: he is working hard to put this back into the red column, talking to a group at the men legion post today. he told them about the potential effect of defense cuts in the looming sequestration saying it could result in the loss of 136,000 jobs here in virginia but it would profoundly affect military readiness and america's security. >> troubled and dangerous world we live in. the idea of cutting our military commit my by a trillio

? >>guest: with all respect to john mccain, that is crazy. if we have learned anything in 11 years since 9/11 we have had one case after another of trying to prop up governments that are islamist states that do not have our interests in common. they are not interested in pursuing the sail path as we are. to try to prop them up, we are thought going to bring these guys an empty we will not gem -- get them to abandon radical views and john mccain could look back at the past nine, ten, 11 years and all of the mistakes we have made. >>neil: always good to see you, sir, from washington, dc. the mug shot that congressman west hopes gives him a better shot. will it? that is ahead. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about that 401(k) you picked up back in the '80s. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 like a lot of things, the market has changed, tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and your plans probably have too. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at charles schwab, we'll give you personalized recommendations tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 on how to reinvest that old 401(k). tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 so talk to chuck tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and bring your old

florida, the majority of seniors voted for john mccain because they were hesitant how the health care reform would take place. talking about ryan and medicare and seniors, it comes down to florida. >> florida, florida, florida, david. she is right about one thing. if you look at the poll, the one area where you see consistent movement poll after poll after poll toward barack obama has been with senior citizens. you know as well as i do, they are a consistent voting block. they go to the polls in larger percentages. has the obama administration been successful at branding the medicare plan of the republicans as voucher care and are senior citizens moving away because they're afraid of the medicare changes? >> the ryan budget plan existed in terms of the 2010 election when republicans won 65 plus seniors by 21 points. part of the dynamic that exists here is, in fact, seniors are really unhappy with president obama's health care plan. what you see is this significant concern handling medicare, four years ago republicans would lose that by 25 points. now it's down in low single digits whe

. in a letter to the office of management and budget, republican senator john mccain, kelly aott and lindsey graham say president obama put his own re-election ahead of the interest of working american. and obama administration is cynically trying to skirt the warn act to keep american people in dark about the looming national security and fiscal crisis. now other republicans are demanding the legal justif justification for the move. there is political uncertainty surrounding the cut and the pentagon says it's not even fully planning for them, preferring that congress reverse them. they say the automatic cut will be gradual. >> what would be affected is the awarding of new contract, or extension of contract or exercise of contract options in the months after sequestions ration. the key, though, is the timing. i would not happen immediately on january 2. it would happen in months and years that follow. >> defense contractors so far followed the administration guidance with lockheed martin announcing it will not move ahead with layoff notices before the election. bret? >> bret: picking up the

he's not such a great debater, he hasn't done this in four years since debating john mccain where as mitt romney had all this practice. even last night the president was trying to downplay his expectations. >> who is going to put the most points on the board? [you are ] >> no, no, governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. but what i'm most concerned about is having a serious discussion about what we need to do to keep the country growing and restore security for hard-working americans. >> i'm just okay the president says in terms of debating, although i remember back in tpwaeut 2008 he did a pretty good job against hillary clinton. a pretty good job with john mccain. by the way, no sign of lindsay lohan here yet. jenna: where are the celebrities going to come in next. ed you're better than okay. back toed as news warrants in las vegas. i gregg: if she was there you would know it. jenna:ed would be all over that. gregg: the man who wants president obama's job also getting ready for the first debate. governor mitt romney will be heading to denver a bit later today ahead o

? gosh, i remember when obama was running against mccain, and it seemed like every day i heard about the muslim and the birth thing, it was terrible. they didn't think that that was biased. it was the story of the day. host: beverly, you're in missouri. are you seeing a lot of campaign commercials on the air? caller: well, in mccassill and aiken. host: but not on the presidential level? caller: no, very few. i think obama has written off missouri, because even though these women here and two men, they are all -- i haven't found one democrat. host: beside yourself, huh? caller: that sort of tells me how their mind is. they're not going vote for obama, but they're not going to vote for romney. i asked, this one lady i ride with, she said she's not going to vote for the president this time. i didn't ask her why, because i want to remain friends, but she definitely wanted to vote republican, but she just can't bring herself to vote for romney because of what they'll do to social security, and she said mine's safe, but i have children and grandchildren. that's the way they're thinking. ho

that john mccain could not win the presidency. a great american but allows a republican and a terrible senator. and i was sadly correct. not only was he a terrible candid in the middle of the crisis, probably even the best gadgets could not have survived. a financial crisis with an incumbent president that was been wrongly at the seat of george bush in the republican party when it goes back to democratic house important -- but nevertheless i wrote in that book that romney would make a great presidential nominee. i didn't know who the nominee would be. it's not a book about romney. i was proven remarkably impressionable by the 2007 book. the dean of the columbia school of journalism. the new yorkers national political reporter and always the go to guy for national political stories. the profile the in 2005 for the new yorker. it was a very nice piece. he told his liberal democratic leaders, the most influential conservative you ever heard of. okay. [laughter] that's okay, i guess. i don't really speak to the manhattan crowd, the your crowd. how many of you describe to the new yorker? i

like the mccain campaign. more focused on tactics than the overall -- let's just say rovian-type strategy. karl rove had a strategy in 2000 and 2004 before he started, and he stuck with it the entire campaign. i don't see that focus here with romney's top advisers. >> there hasn't been that focus. and i think what's really blindsided the campaign, they're obviously worried about the polls that you just discussed. what's really, really worries them is that the right track number coming out of the convention, the number of people who feel like the country's headed in a better direction, that that number really shot up after the democratic conventions and that they're picking that up in swing states, in a lot of these senate races. and that suggests a mood shift in the electorate that they don't fully understand. they think it has something to do with the convention. maybe a little bit to do with the economy in some of these swing states that the economy's still not good, but there are at least signs of the housing front that it might be getting a little bit better. and now the

peksations a-- expect way too high. >> romney is polling worse in favorability right now than john mccain was four years ago at this point. what's that mean now if anything? >> i've been thinking about this. i talked to a friend who is in the other party, i can't say who it is -- >> they got to be worried. >> he said, look, romney's problem isn't that people don't like him. romney's problem is that people think he doesn't like them. that's what the 47% is all about. that's what all of the -- that's what the medicare stuff is all about. >> what about that comment that operative from pennsylvania said about the bain ads. it seems to me nat obama team really coined this guy early. president obama said he looks like the guy who fired you. and then they went on the bain run. and then there was this war on women, which is taken into effect. i mean, every step of the way romney has been on the defensive. >> you and have i talked about this before. he lost the summer, he lost the conventions, he lost the month of september and he can't afford to lose the debates. the obama people were very smart,

against john mccain and some others, and doing his level best to get under romney's skin and romney's just about what a tough debater portman is, on a number of cases, it's been portman's responsibility to try to irritate mitt romney or trip him up on the issues and he's played an important role on this and this debate is six segments, 15 minutes long east and the first three are about the economy and the fourth is obama care and health care reform. the fourth is on governoring and the 5th is role of government. all of these things will dominate the discussion, but romney is planning after this coming debate on wednesday, before the policy speech on the week before the vice-president debates, the attempts by the romney ryan campaign, to go beyond the economy and try to do the whole campaign contrast in the last four years. >> an exciting time for all the americans who said now, carl, they'll tune in more, leading up to the debate. thank you, campaign carl, good to see you. moving on now to president obama and his visit in the swing state of nevada tonight. the president arrives in las vega

in 2008. when the economy imploded, john mccain's advisors say his campaign collapsed along with it and never recovered. historians say in order for an october surprise to have a real 11th hour impact, it has to feed into a narrative that already exists, whether it's carter's ineffectiveness or questions about mccain's credentials on the economy. >> it's not so much that suddenly eureka, this is so surprising, so amazing, but rather, people nod yes, this is where we thought things were going. >> reporter: it's possible we may have already seen this election year's october surprise. maybe it was how the candidates reacted to tragedy in libya and the broader unrest in the mideast or maybe it was mitt romney's now infamous 47% remarks, or perhaps one or both of the campaigns is holding damaging information about the other, or there will be an unforeseen event on the world stage. it's hard to say, since if we could guess, it would not be called an october surprise. dana bash, cn washington. >> we shall see what happens. >>> he was by far -- he was by the side of the iranian pres

obama and senator mccain. >> not the way it was during the primary races. one of the things that you learned from that moment with benson and quayle, is they have been watching dan quayle, this young, some would say not fully prepared senator, and not prepared for the national stage, and watching how he kept comparing himself to john f. kennedy to show that kennedy was also young and they were ready to pounce with that. >> these guys have been on both sides known each other, going to be their opponents, reviewing individual yes videotapes, studied about them, forgetting about whether mitt romney has zingers or not they have some prepared lines ready but more important what overall kind of meta impression is that people get of these people. for mitt romney the challenge is great. a lot of work to do on the stage and one of the most fundamental things americans still have fundamental doubts about whether they see him as a potential president. apart from whether he can prosecute a case against obama he has this bigger thing to do, solve a problem with the fact that a lot look at him and

. the key state of virginia, among white working-class voters -- mccain carried this one in 2008. thirty-one or 32 points as they came back in 2008. to add to that, college graduate groups, obama lost by about 11 points in 2008 and he is basically about even among white college graduate voters in general. that makes it very difficult for romney to put together a coalition that can take this state. colorado has been a state that has been very close. obama has a three or four-point lead. quite a bit of demographic change. minority eligible voters down by three percentage points. the white working-class voters. they have gone down by three percentage points. again, it doesn't appear that romney 2008 among white college graduates, he is not making nearly enough progress. if you break it down geographically, it looks very similar to the data in 2008. finally, the poster child -- obama is running ahead, not merely as far as he did in 2,082,008. that is a very quick maybe it is time for me to step back and catch my breath and say why is this? what is going on? so the health care reform act and

of the white working-class would be the best group for ronny to make progress and mccain carried by 17 points in 2008. look at a breakout from the poles provided and we are not seeing any progress among these voters. we are not seeing a noticeably bigger margin among white working-class voters for the gop candidate. is not happening and that is being translated as a similar margin placed like the i 4 corridor in the center of the state where tampa and orlando are and the miami metro area. .. we see college graduate group that obama lost by about 11 points in 2008. facing the most polls he's physically about even. i think that makes it very difficult for romney to put together a coalition that can take the state. colorado has been fairly close so again obama mabey looks like a fairy or four-point lead on average read a lot of demographic change. you can see the minority eligible voters have gone up by three percentage points and working-class voters in 2008 have gone down by three percentage points. again it doesn't appear that romney is able to turn the demographics tie in his favor. he's not

an anti-islamic video. yesterday paul ryan and john mccain slammed the administration's handling of the deadly attack. >> the response was slow, confused, inconsistent. they first said it was a youtube video and a spontaneous mob. we now know it was a planned terrorist attack if this was one tragic incident that would be a tragedy in itself. the problem is it's part of a bigger picture that the obama foreign policy is unraveling before our eyes on tv screens. >> i think it interferes with the depiction that the administration is trying to convey that al qaeda is on the wane, everything is fine in the middle east. >> you think it's political? >> how else could you trot out our u.n. ambassador to say this was a spon ttaneous demonstrati? >> maybe they thought that at the time? >> on "meet the press" david plouffe was asked by david gregory if politics had anything to do with the administration labeling the assault as terrorism? >> the president's challenger said the president failed to level with the american people and call this a terrorist attack because you had to be concerned a

they would respect him. it is mike mccain in between -- it is like mccain in 2010. >> caller: i think his mom is rolling in her grave as well as his dad. >> john: i think that's very possible. i don't want to talk about his parents in that way too much but his mother was someone who was passionately in favor of a woman's right to choose. there used to be republicans who believed that. i think there's a lot of conservatives certainly in the financial sector who support abortion rights for that reason. his dad released plenty of tax returns. mitt hasn't. the contrasts are kind of sad. let's go to john in -- are we out of time? we're out of time already. we'll go to a break. john in kansas city hang on the phone. i'll get to you as soon as we come back. we're taking your calls at 1-866-55-press on the "bill press show." (vo) what is said here could decide the election. current tv presents coverage of the presidential debate. with unrivaled analysis and commentary. >> you're going to hear that used as a major talking point.

and senator mccain sits there and g that's impossible, but i can't prove it. now we have four years to look at and say, what did you do? why did do you it? defend what you've done. that makes it a lot easier for governor romney n my mind, than senator mccain. no more theories. now we've resume. >> steve: that's right. and in fact, the romney camp has kinds of changed their strategy over the last couple of days publicly and now they're going to make it a choice. so many people know that the economics of our situation right now are horrible and if you look at history, there is no reason this president would be reelected given the past, if it's prologged, given the fact that unemployment is above 8% and gas prices close not closinn on 4 bucks. mr. romney presenting a choice, four more years of this, or the american people will get to determine what kind of america they want to live in. a mitt romney america or a barak obama america. >> gretchen: so no doubt that the two teams who are preparing both of these candidates are saying a lot of time figuring out, what are the negatives about the othe

foreign policy, others have been about the economy, like in 2008. when the economy imploded, john mccain's advisers say his campaign collapsed along with it and never recovered. historians say in order for an october surprise to have a real 11th hour impact it has to feed into a narrative that already exists, whether it's carter's ineffectiveness or questions about mccain's credentials on the economy. >> it's not so much that suddenly, eureeka, this is so surprising, so amazing but rather people nod, yes, this is where we thought things were going. >> that is so fascinating. dana bash is live from our washington bureau. so, question, do some think friday's jobs report from the labor department, could that be an october surprise? >> sure. why not, carol? at this point, anything could be an october surprise. the fact is that maybe we've already seen it. maybe it was the tragedy in libya, the unrest in the middle east and how the candidates responded. maybe it was that infamous 47% remark that mitt romney had. maybe one or both of the campaigns has some dirty trick in their pocket that they

john mccain and barack obama four years ago. the first debate was the first letdown. a lot of wonkiness. they didn't go after each other very hard. they were a little bit nervous in feeling each other out. >> eliot: the notion they would enjoy it, i can tell you i've been through debates nothing on term with that, you don't enjoy it. there are butterflies in your stomach when you walk out there. you know the campaign potentially rests on every utterance you make. there is the his tansey -- hesitancy no matter how skilled you may be, there is a hesitancy and a fear. that's unavoidable. >> how do you deal with glenn beck who is a master of television regardless of what people may think about him. they're using a nice picture of you grimacing. glenn beck has the smile and you don't. >> eliot: i'm trying to scare him. getting prefight cut to look bloodied and beaten up even before we start. it will be fun. in a way this emotionally is similar to what people go through in a debate. you want to make your point

in recent presidential elections. just ask john mccain who made his own last-ditch effort. >> there's just one day left until we take america in a new direction. we need to win in pennsylvania tomorrow. with your help we will win. >> reporter: now, it's unclear what kind of resources romney would put into pennsylvania when asked whether the campaign would buy any ads here, romney aide said that is for the romney campaign to know and for the obama campaign to worry about. but getting back to that phone call, wolf, between romney and prime minister netanyahu, mitt romney just briefed reporters on his campaign plane just about half an hour ago about that conversation. he said netanyahu did talk about that red line on where he would try to draw a line on iran's nuclear weapons program. and romney said he offered his own comments on the issue but wouldn't go into any greater detail than that. and also it's also interesting to note, wolf, romney was asked on the plane about any current assessments on how the president and how the white house is handling the diplomatic attacks in libya, the inves

and they showed at that time in the race against john mccain then senator now president obama he got 68% or so of latino voters. he seems to be doing even better right now among latino voters. here's the question, john, for you. are these guaranteed votes that the president can put in the bank right now five weeks to the day before the election? >> reporter: again, in a word, the answer is no, or not quite. because this is such an important constituency, part of our reporting in colorado, wolf, we went to an obama campaign local headquarters last night in the beginning of the suburban stretch and they were making phone calls to latino voters because they know this in the obama campaign, it's not just the percentage, it's how many turnout. and there is deep concern while we were there at the phone bank we spoke to several people in the room that say when they call the latino voters, they are hearing more and more unlike four years ago people saying he's been president four years and where are the jobs? or he's just another politician. or this is the choice of the lesser of two evils, romney and

will do with mitt romney what, in fact, he did with john mccain which is that as the two of them stand on stage together, the president figures that he's going to look cool, calm and collected and that he can rattle or fluster mitt romney. megyn: well, we saw some moments with mitt romney during the republican primary, and i'm going to jump a little out of order for the control room, but there was one, this one debate in which he actually laid hands on rick perry, and they went back and forth. here's a small clip. >> i don't think i've ever hired an illegal in my life. i'm looking forward to finding your facts on that -- >> i'll tell you what the facts were -- >> rick, i'm speaking. i'm speaking. i'm speaking. >> it's time for you -- >> you get 30 seconds. >> the way the rules work here is i get 60 seconds -- >> the american people want the truth. megyn: and moments after that he talked about how he denied intentionally hiring illegal immigrants to work on his property saying at the time he told the contractor i'm running for office, for pete's sake, and a lot of the republicans said t

are downplaying expectations. romney notes in 2008 against mccain, mr. obama won each debate by double digits accor according to gallup polling and won by by 33 points. the president's team expected romney to be well prepared, playing up advantages for romney. debate and the first debate, favor challengers. >> senior romney a visor offered the g.o.p. debate spin in a memo to reporters -- regardless of who comes out on the top in the debate we amount afford another four years on the last four years. >> make a decision on what they believe is in the best interest of the country and their family. i expect to describe it in a way people understand. if i do, i get elected. >> romney spends the weekend in boston and flies to denver on monday. he has no public campaign activities planned. it's all private for the face-off. important of how important romney thinks it will be. >> bret: okay. see you in colorado. virginia base strategic allied consulting accused to submitting 100 questionable registration in seven countie counties. spokesperson says it's trying to find out how broad the scope of the pr

are good, able debaters. i was on the mccain campaign, i was on the huntsman campaign. i've sat through debates with mitt romney and debates with president obama, then candidate obama. both of these guys are articulate. they have experience, they know how to debate. they've had good debates. they've had some that are less good. but i think both of them are going to do well. >> l.z, we're going to throw two to you right now. first let me ask you, does mitt romney have to avoid missteps. peggy noonan has said this is sort after a hinge, it's a turning point that has the potential to alter the dynamic of the election. do you see the debate as that crucial, the first one? >> absolutely. i think the first one is the only one that really matters. if mitt romney can't hit president obama in the first, who wants to hear what he says in the second and third? i want to make sure we're clear on one things. these haven't been gaffs by mitt romney. this is not the first time he's talking about not necessarily caring. he flat out said he wasn't very concerned about the slr poor. this isn't like a mis

. four years ago there were 15 states that barack obama and john mccain were advertising in. now it's down to nine. you know, so you're getting same amount of advertising dollars squeezed into nine states. almost overearn gaugement with with the battleground states. >> the battleground map has dramatically decreased. we're in fewer states. you're not seeing, for example, the obama campaign talked about maybe we'll go into arizona or texas and georgia. they didn't. the obama campaign had long been looking at pennsylvania and michigan. they didn't. remember, in florida eight years ago we were talking about democrats playing missouri and even west virginia at one point or throwing money down to get the other side to spend money or compete and while republicans were looking at places like washington too. where's new mexico? >> robert, one of the things john cohen head of the polling team said it is fascinating the split between the engagement of young voters in swing states and voters in non-swing states. that's where this is being waged. that's where we need to check with enthusiasm.

people were way more enthusiastic than john mccain's. >> we heard enthusiasm on the republicans side last year and now it's down to turn out. people are voting right now. today. they're starting to vote tomorrow this ohio. our supporters are camped out at polling places and thousands more democrats voted in iowa last week than republicans. that's the way we've built this organization on the ground for the past 500 days. we're ip venvesting in a ground organization. >> we'll hit pause there, but going to be talking a lot to both of you in the next 30 some odd days and still to come, another campaign issue. taxing marijuana to fund schools. it could move the needle. on this presidential election. that is no joke. plus, violence in afghanistan rising as the war is winding down, but it isn't stopping. a father, a mother and a son from deploying together to the war. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like nee

for president obama, eli, big, back in 2008. 55%. john mccain, 42%. but colorado switched back and forth, went to president obama 2004 to president bush in 2000 president bush. what is this place now and what is the biggest issue here for folks you hear? >> colorado is a huge bellwether in the intermountain west. it has been for a few cycles. it's a big bellwether for which way the state will go. not always a swing county. it was conservative going back ten years or so. new population in arapahoe county has changed things. folks are moving from other states in colorado. it has a little more liberal in the suburbs here. it's a pocketbook issues, the same thing that you hear in all the swing states. soccer moms and families. who worry about making the budget and holing on to their home. >> bret: both candidate, president and romney have been here a number of times. clearly the campaigns believe that this state is within both grasps. >> absolutely. you look at the amount of time that president obama has spent, be here a couple of days from now for the debate. romney, the same thing. you cannot go

barack obama presented a quote about john mccain and pretended that president obama was saying it about himself. they defended the ad as honest. romney is running on his business create. he says he created 100,000 jobs as the ce ork as bain. he claimed he had no involvement with managing bain after 1999. but wait a minute. sec filings show him as the ceo and sole stake holder in the company for three additional years. now during those years, what happened? thousands of people were laid off in the bain companies while mitt romney profited. speaking of bain, romney says he's going to get tough on china as president if he's elected. even though his recent tax returns show that he was making investment money all from chinese internet companies accused of stealing american content. he says president obama apologizes for america overseas even though not a single transcript ever shows him apologizing. when mitt romney had a chance to weigh in on the international incident, what did he do? he accused president obama of sympathizing with american enemies. back here at home, romney says the stimu

." that is how mitt romney's ad rehat president obama actually said. >> senator mccain's campaign actually said, and i quote, "if we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose." >> so the romney ad tried to make it sound like president obama said this thing thate he qti it to say that he disagreed with that statement. i mean, there are lots of little lies in politics, little exaggerations, but that's really big, really bad lie. and it was their first ad against president obama. and so, naturally,itt romney got skewered for this, for viy blunt lie.irst gener what did the romney campaign do about the whopper in that ad? did they correct it or remove as mitt romney now says has always been his campaign policy? no, they didn't it. that ad is still up on his campaign web page. not only did the romney campaign dinot remover coect at ad, romney defended it just as it was getting all attention for being a lie, remember? >> there was no hidden effort on the part of our campaign. it was instead to point out what's sauce for the goose is now sauce r the gander. >> sces go, ever. but mitt romney d

mccain, sharply criticizing the administration's initial response to the assault, take a listen. >> the thing that is disturbing about this is the naivete of an absolute fundamental ignorance of warfare. look, this was an attack on its face. the reason why -- heavy weapon, mortars. a well-synchronized direct fire and indirect fire attack. >> our next guest also doesn't feel like he has the full story on this quite yet. republican senator lindsey graham of south carolina joins us. he is on the senate armed services committee. nice to have you in set in person. >> thank you. jenna: go to senator mccain the points he made, the criticism of the administration. how do you think the way this entire situation has been handled is affecting our national security? what is the bigger picture behind this event? >> we can't live with radical islam reining in the middle east. we need to pick sides. there is struggle in libya and throughout the middle east between radical islamists who want to take the word back to darkness, put women in soccer stadiums and kill them for short where we create

. the president wil usehis ample rhetoricts attack romney. obama won the debates against john mccain if 2008 by double digits. it is not just the romney team that is trying to lower expectations. check out what obama's senior campaign advisor said recently. >> look, mitt romney, i think, has an advantage because he has been through 20 of these debates in the primaries over the last year. he even bragged that he was declared the winner in 16 of those debates. so i think in that sense having been through this much more recently than president obama, i think he starts with an advantage. >> want to bring in our jim accosta, who is covering the romney campaign in wayne, indiana. i'm tired of the false flattery really. do people really buy this? >> reporter: no, i don't think buys it, suzanne, but, you know, campaign aides are going to do that, and th'regoin to keep doing it as long as we have elections in this is country. he compared romney to cy young. they hand it out to the best pitcher in baseball. there's a washington national that might win that this time around. geogonzalez. you know, it's

. in 2008 in iowa, then senator barack obama received fewer votes than senator john mccain on election day. but still won the state due to tally from early voting. this year, president obama could receive the same edge from early voting. and the iowa secretary of state's office says that democrats have a 5 to 1 advantage over republicans in the number of absentee ballots requested. now, though the state's republican party promises to close that advantage by election day, the candidates seem to have embraced early voting. both camps approximate put out ads that look and feel like closing arguments. here's president obama's. >> it's time for a new economic patriotism rooted in the belief that growing our economy begins with a strong, thriving middle class. read my plan. compare it to governor romney's and decide for yourself. >> and with a very different pitch, governor mitt romney. >> president obama and i both care about poor and middle class families. the difference is, my policies will make things better for them. we shouldn't measure compassion by how many people are on welfare. we shou

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